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10/24/01 Chat Transcript - Joe Pukos
 

Joe was kind enough to stop by and share some of his secrets with us.

Not only has he won the weigh-off at Clarence, NY two years in a row but he has also grown pumpkins over 1000 pounds each year!

Be sure to also see our recent patch tour with Joe here.

We were also lucky enough to get Neptune's Harvest to sponsor the chat. Eight lucky chat participants were awarded a gallon of organic fertilizer. Thanks again Neptune's Harvest!

Ken D.: Joe should be in soon....if you have not seen the article our patch tour please check it out
Ken D.: Hello Joe, welcome!
PumpkiNut: Hello all
Ken D.: more people should be rolling in about now....
Ken D.: What year did you start growing AG's?
PumpkiNut: 1996
Ken D.: And how big was your first one?
PumpkiNut: My first fruit was about 450
Ken D.: everybody, feel free to lob them out to Joe
jeff352: hi everyone
Ken D.: Joe is PumpkiNut for those who don't know
Ken D.: what seed did you grow the 450 on in 1996?
steelydave: Joe, how large of a growing area do you use, per pumpkin?
PumpkiNut: I have no idea, it was mail order
PumpkiNut: Most of my plants take up 900 sq. ft.
jeff352: Joe,,,how long have you been growing?
PumpkiNut: My 1061 this year was grown in 550 sq ft
PumpkiNut: I have grown since 1996
Bruiser: Hi Joe, Congratulations on the 1061 this year. I see several people talk about digging enormous holes where they start the plant. Do you do this? How deep do you go?
PumpkiNut: I have never done that, but a lot of successful growers try it and have had good results


steelydave: I've heard that you should fertilize hard first, switch to hi phosphorous to get female buds then to hi potassium for fruit growth. Do you do that?
PumpkiNut: I hit it real hard in the spring and then go almost all organic after fruit is set
jeff352: did you do anything special on the 1061 that you didnt do on your others?
PumpkiNut: By organic I mean lots of liquid kelp and fish emulsion
steelydave: Thanks...
PumpkiNut: I did the same to the 1061 as the others
Ken D.: Joe, when do you plant your seeds and do you start them inside first?
duff: what, for instance, is "lots"
Bruiser: Wow, thats interesting. Do you foliar feed?
jeff352: How often do you apply fish emulision and liquid seaweed?
Bruiser: lol..the floodgates are opening!
jeff352: sorry
Ken D.: sorry Joe!
PumpkiNut: I put one pint of kelp and one pint of fish emulsion on per week
duff: sorry here too
PumpkiNut: I do not foliar feed more like a drench
duff: per plant ?
john boy: how about liquid tea
Bruiser: thx
PumpkiNut: No liquid tea here


PumpkiNut: Yes that amount is per plant
Ken D.: Joe, when do you plant your seeds and do you start them inside first?
duff: thanks joe
PumpkiNut: I started this years seeds inside on May 6
PumpkiNut: I set them out about a week after germination
jeff352: Do you bury your vines?
PumpkiNut: I bury every vine
Bruiser: Do you bury the stump?
jeff352: thanks
john boy: What state are you from pumpkinut
PumpkiNut: I bury the stump early and sometimes it works it's way to the top and I don
PumpkiNut: If it comes to the top, I do not bury it again
Bruiser: Ahh...ok..thanks!
duff: any growth hormones or "other " steroids in your regimen ?
PumpkiNut: No none of that (yet?)
jeff352: Do you plant in full sun?
Ken D.: Are you strictly a one fruit per plant guy?
PumpkiNut: Yes, full sun
Tim459: Hi All.....
jeff352: What if anything do you use for insects and powerdy midew?


PumpkiNut: I had just one fruit per plant this year. Last year my 1096.8 also had a 585 sister on a side vine
john boy: how about 3 fruits to a vine
PumpkiNut: Liquid seven and daconil
PumpkiNut: 3 fruits per vine, I believe would give you 3 little pumpkins
Ken D.: Do you use any systemic insecticides?
john boy: ok thanks
PumpkiNut: No I don't
LIpumpkin: Joe..in the picture of the 805 plant, it looks like there's very little plant AFTER the fruit. Do you believe all the fruit growth is from before the fruit and not after? is f
PumpkiNut: The main on that plant did go about 9 feet past the fruit but I believe most growth comes from the stump area
Bruiser: When you grow 1 per plant, do you allow just the one primary vine?
PumpkiNut: yes just one main vine per plant.
John D.: Do you water primarily from your water tower? Would you recomend one to other growers?
PumpkiNut: I use the towers a lot, but I can not get enough water to the plants with them, so I overhead spray as well
duff: ru watering overhead, soaker, underground, other ???
Aggrower_99: Are the towers hooked to soaker hoses alone?
PumpkiNut: Yes
mark(3): how many sq feet per plant ?
PumpkiNut: 900
Aggrower_99: around what date do you "close down" the plant?
PumpkiNut: about 14 hours before the weighoff


Aggrower_99: LOL....
jeff352: Do you put the stems in water before weigh off to prevent weight loss?
Ken D.: don't be shy folks, this is supposed to be fun. :-)
PumpkiNut: yes I do
Aggrower_99: I meant by that....do you have a set time where you terminate all vines or do they grow until the alloted spaces have been filled?
mark(3): do you think if you enclosed your plant at night it would help add weight to your pumpkins
PumpkiNut: No, not the plant, but perhaps closing in the fruit might help
PumpkiNut: Sorry Rock, I terminate all the vines by aug. 15
Aggrower_99: no problem....:) thnx
jeff352: What is the best thing to put under your pumpkin to keep it from rotting?
Aggrower_99: do you terminate the MV as well?
PumpkiNut: I don't put anything under my pumpkins, but I try to keep that area very dry
LIpumpkin: i see straw on the ground...do you use straw as mulch to prevent weeds?
jeff352: would sand help keep it dry?
PumpkiNut: My mains are terminated at 27-30 feet
Aggrower_99: ok
PumpkiNut: I used straw this year and it worked okay, I did have a few mice in the patch and that may have been why
PumpkiNut: Sand is a very good idea and I may use some next year
Aggrower_99: what do you use for vine burying? The dirt in the patch, compost?
john boy: how about plastic under the pumpkins


PumpkiNut: I use the dirt in my patch
PumpkiNut: I don't think plastic would work well under the fruit
jeff352: I would like to grow a large pumpkin for my kids next year. If I sit the plant on end and prop up the stems will it make it have a good shape for carving?
jeff352: and will it grow as well?
PumpkiNut: maybe, never tried that
Bruiser: Jeff, if it grows like a pancake, just prop it up. They look bigger that way anyhow. :)
duff: do u use any systemic or foliar fungicides ?
Bruiser: Sorry if this was already asked, but I didn't see it. How long do you let your secondaries grow?
PumpkiNut: to about 15 feet
PumpkiNut: which is the edge of my patch
jeff352: My biggest had a flat side,,anything I can do to make it round?Or is this in the genetics?
PumpkiNut: When they get big, they tend to get flat too
Ken D.: This ain't no beauty contest!
Aggrower_99: Joe, what did you use for fert in the last stages (sept) of the season?
Bruiser: LOL---Of course you'd say that Ken!
PumpkiNut: In sept, I put on small amounts of kelp and fish fertilizer
Aggrower_99: foliar?
LIpumpkin: Joe...the new york state squash record is only 821 lbs....you have the State pumpkin record now....could the squash record be next?...lol
PumpkiNut: about one half pint per plant per week
jeff352: so you reduce fish and kelp in sept.?


PumpkiNut: My 1061 was getting a little on the green side and would have been the record in about 2 weeks
john boy: is this true milk feeding them
Aggrower_99: Joe....the 1061 was a sibbed 805....k-rect? What did the other 805 produce?
PumpkiNut: No, milk feeding would not work
Ken D.: I am pretty sure the milk goes in the coffe and on the ceral only
Bruiser: ...Or if ALUN was here it would go in Tea.
PumpkiNut: about a 650 pounder that split in the blossom in August
jeff352: Do you use manure?
john boy: that what i thought to
jeff352: and how much?
PumpkiNut: Yes I put it on in the fall
Tim459: how about wind protection?
PumpkiNut: I put it on about 2-3 inches deep across my entire patch and till it in
Tim459: anything special?
PumpkiNut: I keep wind protection up until the middle of july
mark(3): how often do you spray joe do you have vine borers
PumpkiNut: Liquid sevin does not control vine borers, so I bury the vines extensively in an attempt to control them
PumpkiNut: I lost one secondary this year to a vine borer
jeff352: how deep do you bury your vines>?
PumpkiNut: Just enough to cover the entire vine


Ken D.: Joe, did you use any Ironite?
PumpkiNut: Yes, I put on 10 pounds of ironite per planting site in the spring
Aggrower_99: ok folks...buy some Ironite stock...it will go up tomorrow.
jeff352: Joe,,do you measure your pumpkin,,and if so,,how often?
Ken D.: LOL!
PumpkiNut: I measure about every 3 days
LIpumpkin: joe...whats the biggest, most important difference in your cultivation practices between 1999 and now?
mark(3): do you have problems with stump rot
PumpkiNut: no problems with stump rot
Bruiser: Do you grow multiple fruits & cull? If so, when do you cull to one?
PumpkiNut: Glenn, I bury the my vines extensively now and never did before
PumpkiNut: I pollinate as many fruit as I can and then start culling when they get basketball size
jeff352: Do you keep records on each pumpkin?
PumpkiNut: yes
mark(3): how many plants did you have this season
jeff352: How do you determine which pumpkin to cull?
PumpkiNut: I started with 5 and ended up with 4. I pulled my 1096.8 plant because it kept aborting fruit
PumpkiNut: I culled the fruit that were growing the slowest
Ken D.: How many hours per day do you spend in the patch?
PumpkiNut: I spend about 2-3 hours per day in the middle of the summer


Brian C.: joe , as I came late did already talk about your pruning style?
Bruiser: Joe- What's your high temp in the summer? (average)
PumpkiNut: The high temp's this summer were 97F, but the average is usually about 82
jeff352: I hear the north a callin me,,cant grow nothing like Joes down here
PumpkiNut: Brian, I prune off all the third vines and cut off all small fruit
duff: on average, weather dependant, what's your watering schedule like ?
jeff352: very humid Joe?
Brian C.: Christmas tree or other
PumpkiNut: During the middle of July I put on 100 gallons per day per plant
PumpkiNut: We have many humid days
jeff352: Do you water at one time,,or thru the day?
PumpkiNut: I grow all of my plants in the Christmas tree shape
Farmer Scott: dont know if this was covered before, but what do you strive for in your soil as far as N,P,K levels, organic matter, etc?
Brian C.: How close the the edge of the patch do you plant?
PumpkiNut: Usually I water once per day but during our hot days I watered 3 times per day
PumpkiNut: My organic matter is around 10%
Farmer Scott: what kind of soil prep do you do in the spring? fall?
PumpkiNut: My plants are in about 6 feet from the edge of the patch
Brian C.: Are you limited in space, I think you said you grew one of your big ones on 500 sq ft. is that by choice?
PumpkiNut: Fall is all about bringing in leaves and cow manure In the spring, I add 30 pounds of 12-12-12 and 8 pounds of calcium nitrate per site


Farmer Scott: on average, how much manure would you say you use per plant in the spring? and is it fresh, aged, or pretty well composted?
PumpkiNut: In my main garden my plants take up 900 sq ft I have a smaller garden and each plant there was 550
PumpkiNut: I do not put any manure on in the spring. If I did, it would have to be well composted
duff: in your experience, do bigger plants make bigger pumpkins ?
Farmer Scott: i read it wrong.....oops! :) okay how much cow manure in the fall?
PumpkiNut: I thought so until this year
PumpkiNut: I bring in about 5-7 pickup loads for the whole 2700 sq ft patch
duff: gives us patch size challenged growers some hope !!!
Brian C.: is it fresh or aged?
PumpkiNut: Gary Burkes world record 1092 was grown in 400 sq ft
Farmer Scott: ken.....did you get that! LOL
PumpkiNut: All of the manure I being in is well aged
Ken D.: yeah, baby!!!!!
Farmer Scott: when your vines start to run, do you stake them at all? if so, what is your stake of choice?
PumpkiNut: It's called a Len stake
John D.: Do you have any favorite tools of the trade?
Aggrower_99: computer!
Ken D.: it hard to get the dirt out of the keyboard though
Brian C.: Joe, do you use heating cables?
PumpkiNut: No I don't


Brian C.: I did once but they were a pain
Farmer Scott: when do you usually start your seeds? direct or indirect? peat pots or a different method?
PumpkiNut: I start my seeds inside in 4" peatpots
jeff352: Do you use anything to keep rodents away?
Farmer Scott: how long do you wait before you put them out?
PumpkiNut: I started this years seeds on May 6
PumpkiNut: I put them out one week after germination
Tim459: Joe .. I only see one other 805 listed this year... both being 100 over the charts.... I'm sure you've heard more on this,,,,, does this weight or percentage seem reasonable or average for the seed?
jeff352: Do you soak your seed before you plant?
Bruiser: File the edges?
PumpkiNut: Yes I soak them in a kelp solution for 2 hours or so
John D.: Do you set you seed in point down or on its side?
PumpkiNut: Yes I file the edges
PumpkiNut: I plant them point down
kilrpumpkins: Great to be here guys!
john boy: why point down
PumpkiNut: That's where the little root comes out
john boy: ok
duff: ever have need to use fungicides in your area ?
PumpkiNut: Yes, I spray Daconil on once per week


kilrpumpkins: I think if you plant them on their side, like nature would do, it's easier for them to shed their casing.
steve(3): Joe, how much water per day ? overhead or at stump?
jeff352: Do you use a pump sprayer to put daconil on the plants?
PumpkiNut: Planting them on the sides works well too
PumpkiNut: 100 gallons per day on the whole plant
John D.: Joe, how much media attention did you get from your repeat win? Do people that don't know you ever say "So you're the pumpkin guy!"
PumpkiNut: Yes I use a pump sprayer
Bruiser: So what's become of the 1061? On display? carved? gutted?? Rotted???
PumpkiNut: yes, I talked to many different news people and I just love doing that LOL
PumpkiNut: the 1061 has been cut up and is no more
Bruiser: :(
PumpkiNut: The walls were 8-10 inches thick at the stem area
Brian C.: wasted no time!
duff: what r u thinkin' about planting next year...
Water: Joe do you mix firtizler in with the 100 Gallons
Brian C.: Do you overhead or drip water?
PumpkiNut: I am not sure yet what I will plant
kilrpumpkins: I just LOVE Neptune's Harvest! (Plugging for tonights' prize!)
PumpkiNut: I overhead spray and have a drip system too. I use them both
duff: lotta data to tabulate yet...mmmmmmmm


Ken D.: Your in the drawing Kilr!
John D.: Do you use a timer? if so, what brand?
PumpkiNut: No timers, but I think I may add one next year
Brian C.: where is your water from well, city, ditch? do you try to heat it?
PumpkiNut: My water is municipal and I do try to let it get warm in my barrells before putting in on
Brian C.: Explain the barrrels if you will
PumpkiNut: I have 6 barrells on a 7 foot high elevated platform and run that water into drip tubing
John D.: Joe, what do you consider when selecting seeds. Size only?
Brian C.: do you sprinkle out of these as well
PumpkiNut: Not out of the barrells, I have separate sprinklers for my spraying
Brian C.: what kind of drip tubing do you have?
PumpkiNut: I use a tubing called Irrigro out of Niagara Falls, Ont
Brian C.: how many feet per plant
PumpkiNut: about 300 feet per plant
Brian C.: so the drip is just gravity feed
Bruiser: Joe- how many seeds did you get from the 1061 ?
Ken D.: Joe what are your picks for next season?
Brian C.: any kelp, fish, miracle grow?
PumpkiNut: Yes the drip is gravity
John D.: Well, I would like to thank Joe for doing a fine job!


Farmer Scott: great job joe......thanks!
jeff352: Great job Joe
Ken D.: Yes, very nice Joe. Thanks.
duff: i'll second that
Tim459: Fine job Joe... thanks for sharing....
Bruiser: Yes, Joe, thanks for the advice.
Aggrower_99: Great job Joe...thnx for sharing
jeff352: Now if I can just get one half your size,,,
Brian C.: thanks for your time!!!!
john boy: thanks joe
Gourd Grower: Nice job PumpkiNut!!
Aggrower_99: Thank you Joe.
PumpkiNut: Thanks and best of luck to everyone next year
PumpkiNut: If I can do it anyone in the world can too!
John D.: Thanks guys
Bruiser:




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